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Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 19 @ 6:52 PM ET
Ty Anderson: Alex Khokhlachev: "Why Am I Here?"
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
trade him for Ho Sang
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Sep 19 @ 7:00 PM ET
Nope, regardless of recent issue, rather give the kid next year to prove himself and grow-up a bit....
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:28 PM ET
Always a problem with our top prospects here in Boston. Ugh......

Somebody needs to fix this poop show. Last season it was CJ female doging about spooner after his first preseason game, a game in which he scored and was good offensively.

Thank god the sabers were dumbasses and shoot down the "spooner and 2nd round pick" for Chris Stewart trade proposal.

Please someone fix this yearly nonsense! Pretty please.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 19 @ 7:43 PM ET
Nope, regardless of recent issue, rather give the kid next year to prove himself and grow-up a bit....
- Ur Not Me


nope its too late, we completed the trade
DouglasFir
Calgary Flames
Joined: 07.23.2015

Sep 19 @ 8:01 PM ET
Well the B's like to move talent early. I'm just happy we have Dougie.
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 19 @ 9:16 PM ET
Hey Sweeney, I've got this great deal on a bridge you can buy. Just PM me and we'll get it done in a jiffy. Guareenteed no brainer, you'll make a fortune, trust me!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 19 @ 9:19 PM ET
nope its too late, we completed the trade
- DDM-Coga

JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 19 @ 9:45 PM ET

- Nucker101


What's the word on the street with how dougie looks in Calgary so far? Fitting in....?
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 19 @ 9:51 PM ET
@ JIwasinskiJr. Great, they've got him the top pairing with Giordano right now, and he's got a grin from ear to ear! How's life down there post- Dougie era? I heard Sweeny was gonna buy a bridge cheap, hope it works out for him..
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:53 PM ET
@ JIwasinskiJr. Great, they've got him the top pairing with Giordano right now, and he's got a grin from ear to ear! How's life down there post- Dougie era? I heard Sweeny was gonna buy a bridge cheap, hope it works out for him..
- Flamin_Irishmin


Wow, youre an ass hat
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:55 PM ET
Always a problem with our top prospects here in Boston. Ugh......

Somebody needs to fix this poop show. Last season it was CJ female doging about spooner after his first preseason game, a game in which he scored and was good offensively.

Thank god the sabers were dumbasses and shoot down the "spooner and 2nd round pick" for Chris Stewart trade proposal.

Please someone fix this yearly nonsense! Pretty please.

- JIwasinskiJr


There's no problem, this is just a case of a player being NHL ready and the B's not having a spot for him. If he steals a spot, they'll keep him. If not, they should trade him. Happens all the time
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 19 @ 10:40 PM ET
What's the word on the street with how dougie looks in Calgary so far? Fitting in....?
- JIwasinskiJr

Hard to tell until meaningful games are played but he seems pretty upbeat about coming here which should bode well hopefully.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 19 @ 11:08 PM ET
@ JIwasinskiJr. Great, they've got him the top pairing with Giordano right now, and he's got a grin from ear to ear! How's life down there post- Dougie era? I heard Sweeny was gonna buy a bridge cheap, hope it works out for him..
- Flamin_Irishmin


That's good for him. Seriously. I liked him as a player, he was growing on me and was young so I assumed that I would watch him grow up in front on my eyes. In Boston the last guy that I could say I watched and fell in love with as he grew was Bergy. Then Kessel(sorry but the beating cancer think sucked me in), then Seguin then dougie. Not a good track record of liking players and watching them evolve into something special.

Maybe that kid will be Pasta.....but who knows.

I have no idea what the bs upper management is thinking but maybe with the million firsts and seconds we have a "super team" in three years..........?
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 19 @ 11:16 PM ET
There's no problem, this is just a case of a player being NHL ready and the B's not having a spot for him. If he steals a spot, they'll keep him. If not, they should trade him. Happens all the time
- Shaundre93


I 100% understand that. But from a somewhat poopty offseason as a continuation from a crappy offseason last year and then the year before...........

It would be nice to have a start in which we didn't have "drama" as it is already bad enough that it is the "he said, she said" nonsense from the Hamilton trade.

Doesn't this seem to be a BIG problem with youth development and drafting with this team?
It was spooner the start of last season, then Hamilton this off season, and now it's Koko? The start of the season before it was Seguin?

Is there any player we can draft and develope that we "don't" have to hear drama and nonsense about?

Maybe it's pasta.
Seabass2012
Joined: 05.03.2012

Sep 19 @ 11:58 PM ET
Well he will disappointed when Cam and Don send him back to the minors because of this very outburst, to see what he is made of, and of course because there in no room in the lineup for him.

He'll be back in Russia by Christmas.

PoketheBear
Boston Bruins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.09.2014

Sep 20 @ 12:33 AM ET
I 100% understand that. But from a somewhat poopty offseason as a continuation from a crappy offseason last year and then the year before...........

It would be nice to have a start in which we didn't have "drama" as it is already bad enough that it is the "he said, she said" nonsense from the Hamilton trade.

Doesn't this seem to be a BIG problem with youth development and drafting with this team?
It was spooner the start of last season, then Hamilton this off season, and now it's Koko? The start of the season before it was Seguin?

Is there any player we can draft and develope that we "don't" have to hear drama and nonsense about?

Maybe it's pasta.

- JIwasinskiJr


The Seguin drama was of his own doing.

The rest... well I'd hardly call it unique to this organization that players don't want to put in the work and don't make it because of it. Listen, Brian Burke and Bob Hartley have no problem doing it in Calgary and the players who didn't put in the work get traded. I'd hardly compare what Claude did last year to being as bad as what Burke and Hartley were saying to the papers about Sven Baertschi or the poop Burke was saying about Gaudreau. Yet the Flames are an organization that runs a tough team mantra of never given and that's all gravy in the eyes of everybody. But Claude saying Spooner needs to realize there's three zones means he can't develop young players?
What makes Claude different than Hartley or Jon Cooper saying it to the media? Maybe it's the fact that between Marchand and Spooner none of Chiarelli's draft picks were any good? Maybe that's why there's never any young talent. Should they have been more patient with Seguin? Of course they should have.

Hamilton isn't here anymore. I doubt anyone in that room cares and I've heard many scenarios come to light and not one of them involves the coach. And even if they did what's the complaint? You have to defend? He might have benched you if you serve up a large pizza like he did against the Canucks last year? He was playing first line minutes with Zdeno Chara. What more can you ask for as a young defencemen.

If Hamilton thinks Claude is a hard ass he'll be getting an earful from Hartley if he won't block shots or take the body.

Last time I checked Seguin didn't want to leave. And Claude developed and made top line quality players out of Lucic, Marchand, Bergeron, Krejci, Boychuk, and Rask.

Look at the players that have left. Wideman, Wheeler, Kessel, Hamilton. All players with craters in their defensive games. That's the pattern. Whether it's right or not . Pasta and Krug put in the work and are dedicated to becoming complete players and they will be playing top 6 and top 4 minutes. We should be paying attention to them they're here. The rest haven't. And how many cups have Thornton, Seguin and Kessel and Wheeler and the rest of them won since they left Boston?

Zero.

The mantra is about team. Not about yourself. This team thrived on being scrappy and intelligent and sticking together. Claude isn't perfect and last year made some real bone headed moves but I'm excited to see where this goes.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 20 @ 12:35 AM ET
Well he will disappointed when Cam and Don send him back to the minors because of this very outburst, to see what he is made of, and of course because there in no room in the lineup for him.

He'll be back in Russia by Christmas.

- Seabass2012


That seems to be the point of this comment for me too.

"Hey, play me here in the NHL or I'm playing for my dad in the KNL."
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 20 @ 12:44 AM ET
The Seguin drama was of his own doing.

The rest... well I'd hardly call it unique to this organization that players don't want to put in the work and don't make it because of it. Listen, Brian Burke and Bob Hartley have no problem doing it in Calgary and the players who didn't put in the work get traded. I'd hardly compare what Claude did last year to being as bad as what Burke and Hartley were saying to the papers about Sven Baertschi or the poop Burke was saying about Gaudreau. Yet the Flames are an organization that runs a tough team mantra of never given and that's all gravy in the eyes of everybody. But Claude saying Spooner needs to realize there's three zones means he can't develop young players?
What makes Claude different than Hartley or Jon Cooper saying it to the media? Maybe it's the fact that between Marchand and Spooner none of Chiarelli's draft picks were any good? Maybe that's why there's never any young talent. Should they have been more patient with Seguin? Of course they should have.

Hamilton isn't here anymore. I doubt anyone in that room cares and I've heard many scenarios come to light and not one of them involves the coach. And even if they did what's the complaint? You have to defend? He might have benched you if you serve up a large pizza like he did against the Canucks last year? He was playing first line minutes with Zdeno Chara. What more can you ask for as a young defencemen.

If Hamilton thinks Claude is a hard ass he'll be getting an earful from Hartley if he won't block shots or take the body.

Last time I checked Seguin didn't want to leave. And Claude developed and made top line quality players out of Lucic, Marchand, Bergeron, Krejci, Boychuk, and Rask.

Look at the players that have left. Wideman, Wheeler, Kessel, Hamilton. All players with craters in their defensive games. That's the pattern. Whether it's right or not . Pasta and Krug put in the work and are dedicated to becoming complete players and they will be playing top 6 and top 4 minutes. We should be paying attention to them they're here. The rest haven't. And how many cups have Thornton, Seguin and Kessel and Wheeler and the rest of them won since they left Boston?

Zero.

The mantra is about team. Not about yourself. This team thrived on being scrappy and intelligent and sticking together. Claude isn't perfect and last year made some real bone headed moves but I'm excited to see where this goes.

- PoketheBear


It was "my" FACTUAL OBSERVATION and I tried to make it as INOFFENSIVE as possible this time.

I DO NOT KNOW what the problem is with ALL of our FIRST AND SECOND round draft picks, BUT it would be nice if we KEPT a few here and there and it would be nice to NOT HAVE DRAMA with every single one.

Subban and Pasta are the two newest........maybe they work out.

But, who knows at this point. Maybe there IS a pattern.......maybe there IS NO direct correlation.

We used to be the team of keep calm and Bergeron......no drama. Now it SEEMS, maybe I'm overreacting, that it is a personality problem every single year.

An observation, nothing more. Again, maybe these are simply a result of unlucky timing????

EDIT: Simple observation from YOUR SAMPLE SIZE........Bergy 03-04, Krejci 07-08, Lucic 07-08, Marchand 10-11 (he played 20 gms the season before with only ONE assist.....kinda like spooner but worse), Rask was a trade for but played in 09-10, and Boychuk we traded for and played in 09-10.

I'm not trying to be an ass. All I'm trying to do is "state facts." And you can do as you wish with them.

But the last drafted and developed player (top 6 or top 4 D-man) was Marchand in 10-11.........HALF A DECADE AGO.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:21 AM ET
Here is me being an ASS. Who was the last Bs player drafted and signed beyond his ENTRY LEVEL contract to be a standard top 6 forward or a top 4 D-man for the Boston Bruins?

Marchand drafted in the 2nd round, 71st overall, in 2006. Lucic was 50th overall the same year.

FACT

.........although I haven't looked in depth and have had a beer or two or....... But, even still, I'm pretty sure that is accurate.....

So.......we haven't drafted a BRUIN type place in almost TEN YEARS
PoketheBear
Boston Bruins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.09.2014

Sep 20 @ 2:15 AM ET
Outside of the first round we haven't drafted an nhl player of any kind since Lucic and Marchand.

I'd start there to see where the problem is.
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:30 AM ET
Outside of the first round we haven't drafted an nhl player of any kind since Lucic and Marchand.

I'd start there to see where the problem is.

- PoketheBear


That's my point..........

Even the first round.

We have not had a player drafted, developed and relevant in a DECADE. TEN FRICKEN YEARS!!!!

Um........nothing to see here..........
maaddmike
Joined: 08.08.2006

Sep 20 @ 9:08 AM ET
This is such a common situation. A player proves he can score in the AHL. So he gets called up to the big team and is put on the 4th line playing single digit minutes. Then he gets sent back down because he 'can't score at the NHL level'.

A top six forward needs to play a top six role if you really want to see if he can do it at the NHL level.
ProvBrewin
Boston Bruins
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 08.23.2014

Sep 20 @ 10:11 AM ET
It's pretty simple Koko, play good, get a spot. In the two and 1/4 games he played last year he was invisible. I don't care how many minutes he played or who he played with, he was a ghost. To be honest, I've seen him play MANY times at the Dunk and I don't really see why he's so highly touted. He's fast and has a decent shot. Doesn't play d, doesn't get physical AT ALL, and doesn't really like to get dirty near the front of the net. If you don't do those things well, you had better be a real speedy sniper. Which he isn't. I get the feeling since we don't really have any other solid prospects playing in Providence, he gets chalked up as our next big guy. Unfortunately, if he IS our next big guy, I'm sure you will all be disappointed.

I'm getting real tired of all these young guys spouting off like this as well. It seems like the new wave of players (going back a few years too) all have this cocky privileged attitude to them. Shut up and let your play talk. You haven't earned anything until you actually do something of value. Until then keep tying those skates and keep your mouth shut.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
We've had similar issues in the past in vancity with total shiite drafting. Didn't get better until the head scout was sidelined.... y'all might need to do the same thing...
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